Tradeliner (.org) Review 0.5 / 5

Tradeliner (.org) Review

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Tradeliner (.org) Review Summary:

Tradeliner reviews are easy to find.  TradelinesReview goes out of it’s way to provide legitimate reviews of companies selling or associated with tradelines.  Sometimes it’s hard to find relevant information, and sometimes it’s a few clicks away.  Tradeliner is the epitome of overzealous marketing.  Before I called, their website just turned me off.  Everything is so wonderful  people are so happy, they have hundreds of just perfect testimonials, amazing magic products and secret weapons to erase your (bad) credit history and re-write a new (good) one, etc. It just seemed so contrived, it frustrated me.

That seemed like a bad opening, and it is, but that doesn’t speak to their business model.  I remember when tradeliner popped up not to long ago (early to mid 2011).  They started out with tradelines, then seasoned, then “primary”, then CPNs, then negative removals.  It seemed (it was) that they were picking buzz words to boost their search engine optimization to rake in leads.

I don’t mind aggressive marketing, but it’s not possible that they have lived up (or could have possibly lived up) to their wondrous representation of supposed credit witchcraft.

I did not need to do much more research than their website (but, I did).

The offer sweep programs, which are absolutely illegal (in my opinion, but I’m sure legal experts would agree).  You simply cannot click a delete button on anything in your credit report.  There are mountains of laws regulating the information in your report and the handling of that information by bureaus and creditors.  So, someone who advertises this method is either willingly violating multiple laws or lying to you. I suppose another option is that they are incompetent. Regardless, I wouldn’t want to work with a company that fell under any other these adjectives.

They advertise CPNs (credit profile numbers), which technically isn’t illegal, but they are essentially setting you up to illegally apply for credit.  Don’t do it.

They use formstack.com for collecting your information… oh, and it’s an UNSECURED portal. Crazy.

Let’s get to the details:

 

PROs and CONs:

  • N/A
  • No business records.
  • Substantial complaints.
  • Inconsistent “payment methods”.
  • They promote illegitimate CPNs
  • They promote illegitimate “Primary” tradelines.
  • They promote illegitimate “Sweep” programs.
  • The promote illegitimate “Inquiry Removal” programs.

 

Pricing

 

Affordability

Because most of the content on Tradeliner (.org) is filled with verifiable non-sense, I cannot take their pricing schedule seriously.  However, if I did, it would be astronomical.  But, that is just considering price.  Supposedly, $1,500.00 would net you “(2) Primary’s 50,000 Seasoned 5 years, (3-4) of our best AU’s available with 28 +years seasoning, Designed for Business Funding (optional), Assigned Concierge for one on one consulting, Direct Hotline to our Funding Team Access, Instant Broker Status-refer and get paid at the highest level commission rate, Up to $150,000- $250,000 include business funding”.  If you believe that, please contact me because I have some prime Florida swampland to sell you.

 

Pricing Model

You have to dig pretty deep into their website to determine their pricing model.  I was able to come up with some pricing, which ranged from $749.00 to $1,500.00 depending on the “package” purchased.

 

Payment Methods

Tradeliner allegedly uses Authorize.net, but I called Authorize.net and searched their website and no records of Tradeliner exists.  I read a complaint online which stated a charge on the individual’s credit card statement came from an individual, and NOT Tradeliner.

 

Performance

 

Effectiveness

Due to the substantial amount and nature of complaints at every turn on Google, I can only report here that Tradeliner is NOT effective at all.  Aside from their own website, I couldn’t find one legitimate source of praise.  I typically avoid consideration of anonymous online complaints, but the amount and detailed nature of complaints provided a sense of legitimacy toward their assertions.

 

Knowledge

Tradeliner offers what I consider to be keyword grabbing products, rather than services to help their clients.  All of these magic tricks with no substance tends to make me believe they spend more time figuring out how to collect leads, rather than help consumers with their credit.

 

Experience

Tradeliner popped up out of no where, and has no verifiable results reported, anywhere.  I was suggest their experience is wholly insufficient.

 

Efficiency

The complaints online suggest they are effective at collecting fees, but not necessarily performing services.

 

Customer Service:

 

Communication:

One complaint I found, which ignited a string of back and forth between others who were allegedly ripped off by Tradeliner, stated once money was collected, they never heard from Tradeliner again.  They called at least twice a day and sent approximately 20 emails with no reply.  The client was successful performing a “charge back”, but never heard from Tradeliner again.

 

Professionalism

I was unable to reach Tradeliner by phone or email.

 

Reputation:

 

Legitimacy

Tradeliner does not exist according to my research.  There are no records of a business named “Tradeliner” across the Country.  There are no records of them having an Authorize.net accounts (even though they suggest there is on their website).  They have a massive amount of complaints that target the alleged owners.  There are supposedly criminal and civil lawsuits against the owner (I searched hard, but came up empty-handed on verifiable information as to this claim).

 

Trustworthiness

I could not find a single reference, anywhere, that would suggest they are trustworthy.  I found plenty of references to suggest Tradeliner (.net) is not trustworthy.  You can check your not one, not two, but three sources or more by doing your own research.

 

Online Presence

Tradeliner (.org) has an online presence of which they should not be proud.  The internet is filled with negative reviews of Tradeliner.

 

Online Complaints

Tradliner (.org) has too many complaints to list.

 

Knowledge:

 

Agreements

Tradliner does not even offer agreements on their website.  I was unable to contact anyone, so I was unable to review any agreements (if they have them at all).

 

Legal Knowledge

Tradeliner’s extravagant and overzealous approach to promoting what we deem as illegitimate services tells us they either have a disregard for the law or a lack of the law concerning credit itself.

 

Compliance

Considering you are required to provide notices of cancellation,  rights pursuant to federal and state law, an agreement with the name of the company providing the services (among other things) in combination with complaints we found listing individuals as responsible for charges, it is clear they are not in compliance with relevant laws and regulations.

 

Final Thoughts:

Based on the fact that Tradeliner came out of nowhere and is super aggressive with marketing, I’d say they are a high risk business.  Even if they manage to squeak out some results, I’d be concerned even with that success.  I would absolutely stay away from Tradeliner.  The reason for the absurdly low score was a result of their absurd misrepresentations, deliberate exaggerations and reckless disregard for the hope a legitimate consumer has when looking for legitimate businesses to help them with their credit.  One thing I thought was so strange is that they haven’t yet put their tail between their legs and closed up shop.  It seems they are trying to dilute the negative results found online by aggressively stuffing Google with non-sense and submitting rebuttals to online complainants.

14 Comments

  1. I heard they (or the people behind the company) are getting sued. See:

    GOOD NEWS-Prosecutor Douglas Bechtel will be in Castlerock Colorado Criminal Court on 11-8-12 at 8:30 AM in Divison 8. Todd Jeremy Stockton aka Todd Stockton/Owner-AmericasTradelines.com will be tried that day for Grand Larceny(Grand Theft in Calif).
    Now is the Time for anyone who got ripoffed/Scammed by him. To contact Prosecutor Douglas Bechtel with you Complaint & do U still have your evidance? then this IS the time to fax it,FedEX,or etc to him. Let’s put this crook away for a few years. And Garnish whatever income that he makes in prison and afterwards.
    Todd Stockton’s Docket number is case #D182012CR000497

    http://www.scambook.com/report/view/64108/Tradelinerorg-Complaint-64108-for-$4,987.50

    • Josh,

      Thanks for the research and information. I came across this information and searched for a few hours for the legal documents. I checked all the local court documents and dockets and couldn’t find them. If you or anyone who reads this can locate the documents, please let me know and I will post them.

      Thank you!

      TradelinesReview

  2. While this was a fantastic review, it was almost unnecessary because Google has done a good enough job of putting all of Tradeliner’s Bu****it at the top of results.

    Also, I don’t think you went far enough. I get you are trying to be a legitimate review site and you do a good job, but you know you could have gone farther and told people to DO NOT HIRE TRADELINER>ORG

    • Michael,

      I appreciate your feedback and will take it into consideration. You are correct, we could have gone further, but I want to ensure that the “reviews” we produce are reasonably calculated to paint a picture of the organization based on the most reliable and legitimate sources of information. There are very passionate expressions against Tradeliner.org, and they may be correct. However, we feel our review accurately represents the organization based on the information we were able to find.

      Thank you,

      TradelinesReview

  3. They are a joke! Stay away! No run away! I lost nearly $2,000.00 early 2012 and I am still trying to get it back. STAY AWAY FROM TRADELINER.ORG

  4. I use them as a broker, yes in late 2011 many of the primary sources stopped producing… it was frustrating. I will say this, that “new seasoned primary tradeline” that Tradeliner has been selling now, and has for the last 8-9 months is the only tradeline I have found out there. if anyone knows of another source that compares, but priced a bit cheaper, I would be willing to pay some up front cash to get the source. I have tried everyone else, trust me, I lose money every month, and all I get is new primaries, or excuses, crap like that. Tradeliner is a bit pricey yes, but that tradeline posts in just a few days and the waiting list is growing month by month. My last order posted in 4 days and score for my client is now 740. Cant beat that IMO which is why I give 5 stars. I am open to new sources no question about it, I have last money certainly, who hasn’t, but I made it back real fast with the current seasoned tradeline source I have now, Tradeliner. I doubt you can even get an order in now, they sell out now that word is out. lets hope it continues for a while like the Acapulco line did. Btw, I heard that Tradeliner’s current provider is working on releasing “2″ new tradelines that will be separate from the current tradeline as a back up, cant wait for this.

    • SPAM ALERT:

      On January 10, 2013 at 3:26AM EST, we considered blocking a suspicious review (rating) submitted by “Teri” above.  In the spirit of transparency, we decided to let the spam through, to make the following points about it. Considering almost every user (as of the date and time of this writing) has provided a half star (.5 out of 5 stars) review with links to external posts substantiating their rating, it caught our attention that someone would give 5 stars to this company.  In addition, we tracked their IP address which matches IP addresses associated with tradeliner . org blog posts:

      Visits:1
      IP address: 65.130.9.201 (ARIN/RIPE)
      Locale: Salt Lake City, UT, USA / English
      Organization: Century Link / qwest.net
      Platform: Google Chrome 23.0 / Mac OS X / 1920×1080

      Let’s count the ways this review is ludicrous:

      1. The “broker” switches between first and third person, a sign of deception.
      2. The “broker” “loses money every month” but still uses Tradeliner?
      3. Tradelines post in a few days?  Boy, that sounds wonderful.  Attributing a false narrative, known to be false, sounds more like Tradeliner themselves, and not a “user”.  No tradeline company has control over how quickly a tradeline report, the status of reporting or the duration it will report.  Period.
      4. This review expresses concern that Tradeliner does not have enough inventory and there is a waiting list, yet she is actively advocating Tradeliner’s alleged skill, expertise and reliability.  Would that make others want to hire Tradeliner?  Thus, exacerbating the problem and concerns expressed?
      5. The transform from a simple satisfied user to a promoter of “inside konwledge” at Tradeliner . org.
      6. The “review” checks the box on every lame sales tactic in the book, for example:
      • Exclusivity:  “…is the only tradeline I have found out there…”. Don’t you want to be special and get exclusive tradelines like this review says?
      • Comparison:  “… I have tried everyone else, trust me…”.  Well, guys, I guess we should trust her, right? No!
      • Urgency:  “…I doubt you can even get an order in now, they sell out now that word is out…”.  Jezz, we better hurry up and get over to Tradeliner, right?  No!
      • Pleasure Sensation: “… my client is now 740…”  Wow, this must work then, right?  Wrong!
      • Pain Relief:  “…I have tried everyone else, trust me, I lose money every month, and all I get is new primaries, or excuses, crap like that.  Tradeliner is a bit pricey yes, but that tradeline posts in just a few days…”  Don’t you feel her pain?  She lost money.  But, now he’s happy.  You could be happy too, huh?  Nope!
      • Scarcity:  “…I doubt you can even get an order in now, they sell out now that word is out…”  Don’t you hope you can get a slot?  Nope!

      The bottom line, Teri’s review is complete nonsense.

  5. Ha ha! This was an awesome review from the author, but I loved Teri’s fake review / testimonial / attempt at business promotion. I knew nothing about any of these companies before I visited this site, and I know nothing about Tradeliner pther than what’s written here, but I am just submitting a review with a half star just to dilute the effect of Teri’s b.S. rating. Good job Tradelinesreview! Thanks for keeping their dirty world clean.

    • Thank you, but we are going to have to disregard your rating as well. A fake review for them is just as bad as a fake review against them. However, we will allow the content of your review for other users to read. If you end up hiring a company, please come back and visit us and report your experience. Thanks again!

  6. Tradeliner is the biggest scam on the internet. They are disorganized, can’t keep track of a conversation I had with them the day before. I know more about tradelines then they do and if that’s the case, you aren’t getting my money. They entire website is full of garbage and lies. Thank god for this tradelines review website. Thanks for some truth in this industry.

  7. You know, I am doing research and everything this late at night because i am sitting here wondering how long it is going to be before getting good news from them that everything has been swept and I am ready to rock and roll…

    Running across this review, I wish I would have run across this review sooner – and if I have to send traffic your way so that more people can be made aware of this, then I will do so. Thank God i paid with a corporate credit card. I am going to immediately dispute the charges now and get them the hell away from me while I still can. My god everything that I have read rings an all-too-familiar bell! This is horrible, and I don’t believe in negative energie, but damnit I hate them – to talk like they SOOOOOO want to help you but they are just scammers; ugh! damnit!

    Too bad i can’t give less than half a star.

  8. I’m so glad I decided to do research on this company before I gave them any money.
    I have been emailing back and forth with a “representative” which was ok and prompt at first (while I was suggesting giving him the full amount of $1900) but then when I started to ask questions about the company itself, the emails slowly stopped.
    I actually got him to email me a copy of the “Agreement/Contract”. See below for a copy/paste of the email he (Ashton Archuleta) sent me today:

    “Yeah, I certainly understand where you are coming from Siukey. Here is the link that has our agreement and contract, you need to scroll to the bottom to read it. I also just copy and pasted it for you! (:

    http://www.formstack.com/forms/hardmoney-processing_form

    {{
    TRADELINER SYNC-X /14 DAY CREDIT REPAIR
    CLIENT APPLICATION & SERVICE AGREEMENT

    Description of Services:
    This Credit Repair Service Contract between SYNC-X and its affiliates Herein referred as SYNC-X Media or Guardian Management LLC herein referred as SYNX-X, and the undersigned “Client” is for the purpose of purchasing credit report and repair services, improvement and consultation services.
    The Services will include credit report analysis, preparation of correspondence (affidavit letters) to credit bureaus, collection agencies and/or creditors including, but not limited to, request removal of errors, misrepresentations, outdated and/or unverifiable information, fraudulent accounts, invalid social security numbers, alias names and delinquent accounts which the Client states appear on his/her credit reports; and, continuing analysis for the credit bureau reports, all correspondence associated with the credit restoration process, the review for changes and the continuing planning and creation of documents.
    Client understands that SYNC-X will obtain Client’s credit report. SYNC-X will evaluate and complete an analysis of the Client’s credit reports then contact Client in order to develop a strategy to delete, correct or change those negative and/or inaccurate items within 14 days, WE GUARANTEE THAT 2 OF 3 BUREAUS WILL BE CLEARED OF NEGATIVES and the remaining items IF ANY on the third bureau will be processed in a secondary program within 30-45 days. which Client states appear on his/her credit reports. NOTE: We do not process files in the state of Georgia. Files that have negative items that are current reporting accounts especially child support or government accounts can and may reappear on the file after the item is deleted, so as a results we can not guarantee these negative items will remain removed. All old negative Items that are not currently reporting as active accounts will be 100% removed.
    SYNC-X agrees to use its best efforts to provide the Services, and will perform them in accordance with federal and state laws.
    Client Agreement:
    Client authorizes SYNC-X to order and obtain a copy of his/her credit report from the national credit reporting agencies or Client will provide a copy of each credit report from Experian, Equifax and TransUnion to SYNC-X.
    Upon the credit report analysis, SYNC-X will forward all affidavit documentation letters to Client for Client’s signature. Client agrees to sign correspondence and obtain a Notary Public signature when required and return such correspondence along with the payment necessary if any. All mailing expense invoice may be included with all correspondence.
    Client further agrees to send, via mail, all credit reports and/or correspondence received from credit bureaus, collection agencies and/or creditors to SYNC-X within five (5) days after the date received.
    Additionally, Client agrees not to respond to any correspondence received during the term of the contract, as it may cause a delay in the credit restoration process. All responses and/or concerns should be addressed to your Specialist.
    For services other than credit repair, Client permits SYNC-X to furnish its affiliates, partners, employees and/or other resources Clients name, address, social security number, date of birth, telephone number and email address in order that SYNC-X , it’s affiliates, partners, employees and/or other resources may obtain Clients credit files when deemed necessary.
    Service Fees & Terms
    Client understands that the Total Service fee is listed within this form. The entire Total Service fee required at the time this Contract is signed.
    The Client understands and agrees that upon receipt of Clients credit reports or 10 business from the date of the contract, whichever is longer, Client will remit balance, if any, to SYNC-X before SYNC-X will provide Client with affidavit letters.
    Contract will expire one month (30 days) from date of this contract. Contract will continue until this Contract expires or is canceled in writing by SYNC-X or Client. The Client understands that the service fee includes the continuing analysis for up to one months (30 days) of the credit bureau reports, all correspondence associated with the credit restoration process, the review for changes and the continuing planning and creation of documents for the purpose of credit report repair, improvement and consultation.

    DISCLAIMER
    Consumer Credit File Rights Under State and Federal Law
    You have a right to affidavit inaccurate information in your credit report by contacting the credit bureau directly. However, neither you nor any ”credit repair” company or credit repair organization has the right to have accurate, current, and verifiable information removed from your credit report. The credit bureau must remove accurate, negative information from your report only if it is over 7 years old. Bankruptcy information can be reported for 10 years. You have a right to obtain a copy of your credit report from a credit bureau. You may be charged a reasonable fee. There is no fee, however, if you have been turned down for credit, employment, insurance, or a rental dwelling because of information in your credit report within the preceding 60 days. The credit bureau must provide someone to help you interpret the information in your credit file. You are entitled to receive a free copy of your credit report if you are unemployed and intend to apply for employment in the next 60 days, if you are a recipient of public welfare assistance, or if you have reason to believe that there is inaccurate information in your credit report due to fraud. You have a right to sue a credit repair organization that violates the Credit Repair Organization Act. This law prohibits deceptive practices by credit repair organizations. You have the right to cancel your contract with any credit repair organization for any reason within 3 business days from the date you signed it. Credit bureaus are required to follow reasonable procedures to ensure that the information they report is accurate. However, mistakes may occur. You may, on your own, notify a credit bureau in writing that you affidavit the accuracy of information in your credit file. The credit bureau must then re-investigate and modify or remove inaccurate or incomplete information. The credit bureau may not charge any fee for this service. Any pertinent information and copies of all documents you have concerning an error should be given to the credit bureau. If the credit bureau’s re-investigation does not resolve the affidavit to your satisfaction, you may send a brief statement to the credit bureau, to be kept in your file, explaining why you think the record is inaccurate. The credit bureau must include a summary of your statement about affidavit information with any report it issues about you. The Federal Trade Commission regulates credit bureaus and credit repair organizations. For more information contact: The Public Reference Branch, Federal Trade Commission, Washington, D.C. 20580.
    Credit Repair Organization Act
    Requires any consumer who enters into any contract with any credit repair organization to be given (1) a copy of the completed contract and the disclosure statement required under section 405 and (2) a copy of any other documents the credit repair organization requires the consumer to sign, at the time the contract or the other document is signed.
    SEC. 407. Right to Cancel Contract
    In General. — Any consumer may cancel any contract with any credit repair organization without penalty or obligation by notifying the credit repair organization of the consumer’s intention to do so at any time before midnight of the 3rd business day which begins after the date on which the contract or agreement between the consumer and the credit repair organization is executed or would, but for this subsection, become enforceable against the parties.
    ‘Notice of Cancellation’
    You may cancel this contract, without any penalty or obligation, at any time before midnight of the 3rd day which begins after the date the contract is signed by you. To cancel this contract, mail or deliver a signed dated copy of this cancellation notice, or any other written notice to SYNC-X at: 725 River Road 32-80 Edge Water NJ 07020 before midnight on 3rd day.
    Final Agreement
    I understand that SYNC-X does guarantee positive results and SYNC-X does not guarantees specific outcome and success. By Law we can only warranty results, which is fully covered as per this agreement. We target all bad credit that can be removed in 14 days or less from the time a paper work has been notarized and submitted to the credit bureaus. Please speak to your agent regarding the specific items that are not covered within this agreement or please read to items that are excluded above within this agreement. I further understand that the affidavit process can take more or less than 14-21 Days. We generally see 100% of our results in 14 days from time of submission. I indemnify and hold SYNC-X and it’s Affiliates harmless from any and all claims, damages, and expenses incurred during and after the term of this contract. In addition, I understand that SYNC-X will not render any affidavits on my behalf until I remit the aforementioned cleared balances and/or fees due.
    Credit Card Authorization
    One Time Credit Card Payment Authorization Form
    Sign and complete this form to authorize PRO CREDIT LLC and or its partners Guardian Consumer Law, Pro Seo, and MIG, to make a one time debit to your credit card listed below.
    By signing this form you give us permission to debit your account for the amount indicated on or after the indicated date. This is permission for a single transaction only, and does not provide authorization for any additional unrelated debits or credits to your account.
    I understand this is a binding agreement and agree to the terms set within.
    I acknowledge that I have received a copy of the Service Agreement and the, “How It Works” document.
    I authorize the above named business to charge the credit card indicated in this authorization form according to the terms outlined above. This payment authorization is for the goods/services described above, for the amount indicated above only, and is valid for one time use only. I certify that I am an authorized user of this credit card and that I will not dispute the payment with my credit card company; so long as the transaction corresponds to the terms indicated in the agreement.”

    • They should have spell checked their agreement before they sent it out … they spell affidavit 3 different ways 2 of which are wrong

  9. The exact email I got today…Glad I saw this before I made a payment

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